German Pilots ‘Shot Down’ US Air Force F-22 Raptors in 2012 — They Also Admitted They Couldn’t Get Within 20 Miles of One in Real Combat

F-22 Raptors from the 1st Fighter Wing and 192nd Fighter Wing, participate in a total force exercise at Joint Base Langley-Eustis, Virginia, Feb. 28, 2019. Both wings partnered with the 633rd Air Base Wing during the Phase I exercise to showcase their readiness and deployability of the F-22s. (U.S. Air Force Photo by Tech Sgt. Carlin Leslie)
F-22 Raptors from the 1st Fighter Wing and 192nd Fighter Wing, participate in a total force exercise at Joint Base Langley-Eustis, Virginia, Feb. 28, 2019. Both wings partnered with the 633rd Air Base Wing during the Phase I exercise to showcase their readiness and deployability of the F-22s. (U.S. Air Force Photo by Tech Sgt. Carlin Leslie)
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Summary and Key Points: The German Eurofighter pilots who “shot down” F-22 Raptors at Red Flag Alaska in 2012 weren’t the first to paint a Raptor kill on their jets. F-16s have notched notional F-22 kills in training, and a Navy EA-18G Growler wore an F-22 kill mark in photos that surfaced in 2009. Those wins came under exercise rules that stripped away the stealth fighter’s biggest advantages. The same caveat applies to Chinese simulations now touting the J-20: paired with loyal wingmen, it wins most fights, but alone it rarely beats an F-22.

Eurofighter Typhoon vs. F-22 Raptor: Who Really Won? 

In another story that just won’t die in social media circles, back in 2012, two German Eurofighter Typhoons “shot down” US F-22 Raptors in a Red Flag exercise in Alaska.

Of course, the press had a field day with it. ABC News reported that the F-22 Raptor may “own the skies at modern long-range air combat, it is ‘evenly matched’ with cheaper, foreign jets when it comes to old-school dogfighting.”

The Red Flag Exercise is a premier, realistic aerial combat training exercise held multiple times annually at Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and Eielson AFB, Alaska.

Established in 1975, it prepares aircrews from the U.S. and allied nations for combat by simulating the most dangerous missions of modern warfare, with a focus on high-end, multi-domain warfighting.

Eurofighter Typhoon

Eurofighter Typhoon. Image Credit: Creative Commons.

Eurofighter Typhoon

Eurofighter Typhoon. Image Credit: Creative Commons.

Eurofighter Typhoon

Eurofighter Typhoon. Image Credit: Creative Commons.

And in exercises where the parameters are often rigidly set, “notional shootdowns” will occur.

The F-22 has notionally been shot down by F-16s in the past, as well as an EA-18G Growler during a training exercise, with photographic evidence appearing in 2009 showing a Growler with an F-22 kill mark, demonstrating the Growler’s advanced electronic warfare capabilities.

EA-18G Growler Firing Weapons

EA-18G Growler Firing Weapons. Image Credit: Creative Commons.

The German Pilots Milked It For All It Was Worth

The German pilots also sported Raptor “kill” decals on their Typhoons. “Gott im Himmel, das ist ‘n Wunder.” Yawn.

The Germans claimed that the notional “kills” proved that they had “Raptor salad for lunch.”

It sounds like they were quite impressed with themselves.

Two German officers, Col. Andreas Pfeiffer and Maj. Marco Gumbrecht, noted in an after-action report that the F-22’s capabilities are “overwhelming” when it comes to modern, long-range combat as the stealth fighter is designed to engage multiple enemies well-beyond the pilot’s natural field of vision – mostly while the F-22 is still out of the other plane’s range.

Grumbrecht said that even if his planes did everything right, they couldn’t get within 20 miles of the next-generation jets before being targeted.

“But as soon as you get to the merge…” Pfeiffer said, referring to the point at which fighters engage in close-up dogfighting, “in that area, at least, the Typhoon doesn’t necessarily have to fear the F-22 in all aspects… In the dogfight, the Eurofighter is at least as capable as the F-22, with advantages in some aspects.”

The E/A-18 Growler story was revealed by Stephen Trimble of Flight Global, who told aviationgeekclub.com how he learned about it.

But What About the Parameters Of This Exercise:

Alex Hollings of Air Power wrote that, “After the exercises were over, Germany’s Eurofighter pilots arrived at 2012’s Farnborough International Air Show, where they were quick to discuss their victories over the F-22.

“According to David Cenciotti’s coverage for The Aviationist, Germany’s Typhoon pilots explained that when the F-22 was flying with external fuel tanks attached and fighting within visual range, Typhoons were often able to outclass the Raptor.

“The Raptor pilots, flying within visual range, probably spotted the Eurofighter first, but for some reason did not engage its Sidewinders,” Dr. Brent Eastwood wrote. Things that make you go hmm.

Also lost in the hoopla of the ABC News story was the Air Force’s statement that the Raptors flew 80 missions during the event “with a very high mission success rate.”

The F-22 Raptor Is “Still The One”:

The US F-22 Raptor has been the standard against which all fighter aircraft have been measured for more than 21 years. Yet it still sits at the top of the mountain in terms of dogfighting ability, stealth, supercruise ability, maneuverability, and integrated avionics.

What makes the F-22 great in a dogfight is its thrust-vectoring capability.

Its two engines have specially designed nozzles at their ends that can move on a vertical plane to vector the aircraft’s 70,000 pounds of thrust in one direction even if the aircraft is heading in another, thus allowing the F-22 to do some impressive acrobatics, as well as leverage a highly high angle of attack during a within-visual-range engagement.

The Raptor’s top speed is Mach 2.25 (1,500 mph), powered by Pratt & Whitney F119 turbofan engines.

The USAF currently has approximately 175 combat-ready F-22s in its inventory.

“When you’re flying the Raptor, you’re not thinking about flying the Raptor,” explained F-22 pilot Randy Gordon in a lecture he gave at MIT, “You’re thinking about employing the Raptor. Flying is secondary.”

“Raptor has vector thrust: Typhoon doesn’t,” RAF Typhoon pilot and squadron commander Rich Wells told Breaking Defense in 2013. “What the aircraft can do is incredible. The Typhoon just doesn’t do that.”

While rare, this “shootdown” of a stealth fighter is hardly a singular event. Whenever the situation or training scenario is constrained, the stealth fighter’s advantages are undermined.

However, it doesn’t mean that the Growler is equal to the Raptor, nor does it mean that the Typhoon is the F-22’s equal. It was simply a matter of cherry-picking some exercises that were stacked in one side’s favor.

Recent headlines from China featured statements from Chinese computer programmers who claimed that the J-20 would win engagements 95 percent of the time against the F-22.

However, that is if the J-20s had two “loyal wingmen.” The US is also developing the same program.

The Collaborative Combat Aircraft (CCA) program is a US Air Force initiative to develop a new type of uncrewed, jet-powered aircraft that will operate alongside and collaborate with crewed fighter jets. These are already flying and being tested.

However, in the same computer simulations conducted by Chinese programmers, it was reported that a single J-20 equipped with eight medium-range air-to-air missiles had less than a 10 percent chance of defeating an F-22 equipped with six AIM-120C missiles.

This is one of those neat, “let’s talk smack in the O’Club” stories. But ask those same German pilots if they’d rather have a Typhoon or a Raptor.

About the Author: Steve Balestrieri

Steve Balestrieri is a National Security Columnist. He served as a US Army Special Forces NCO and Warrant Officer. In addition to writing on defense, he covers the NFL for PatsFans.com and is a member of the Pro Football Writers of America (PFWA). His work was regularly featured in many military publications.

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Classification
Region
North America
Analytical Domain
Operational
Primary Category / Secondary Categories
Military Operations / Weapons & Equipment
SALUTE Report
Size
Two Eurofighter Typhoons, approximately 175 F-22 Raptors in inventory
Activity
German pilots claimed notional kills of F-22 Raptors during a training exercise
Location
Alaska · United States
Unit
German Air Force, US Air Force
Time
2012
Equipment
Eurofighter TyphoonF-22 RaptorEA-18G Growler
Summary

In 2012, German Eurofighter Typhoons claimed notional kills of US F-22 Raptors during a Red Flag exercise in Alaska. The exercise highlighted the F-22's superiority in long-range combat, while German pilots noted that in close dogfighting, the Typhoon could compete effectively. The F-22 Raptors flew 80 missions with a high success rate during the event.

Key Facts
  • German Eurofighter pilots claimed notional kills of F-22 Raptors during a Red Flag exercise in Alaska in 2012.
  • F-22 Raptors have been noted to have a high mission success rate during the exercise.
  • The F-22's capabilities are considered overwhelming in long-range combat, but the Eurofighter Typhoon is competitive in close dogfighting.